Fon Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Mine is trying to do anything to keep trading in the event of another lock down. Would your boss expect you to turn up to work? Fon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Surely you have to turn up for work unless you work in a business that has been ordered to shut down. This is getting serious now for business's, there's no way we can afford another lockdown as severe as before, many business's are in danger of folding. I've had one day off this calendar year apart from bank holidays. I work six days a week and so far have done fifteen Sundays on top of that. I've had my best year ever but i'm doing it because of my overheads and to add to my buffer in case next year turns to shit. I don't want to get towards the end of the year panicking about how i pay my rent and mortgage and all the other overheads. I'm not currently employing anyone and i can only imagine how stressful it must be to have staff to worry about and overheads that just mount up every week when the business doesn't generate income. And for all of that you get staff who feel like they have a decision to make about whether or not they should bother turning up for work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackmanSlim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Not much you can do about it tbh. Soz man Slim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveywavey Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I got to agree with Hackmanslim it could be a matter of life or death for a lot of people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If it's a matter of life and death as in you have a medical condition that makes you susceptible to the virus then fine, but other than that get your lazy arse to work. Seriously what do you think will happen to our economy if we lock down for months again and people stop going to work? Should the Doctors, nurses and people working in supermarkets also stop going to work? After all they are taking a far bigger risk and far more exposed than most of us. I would imagine that the answer to that question is "No" because i may need medical care and i sure as fuck need food. But the chances are that your job is nowhere near as risky but you feel that you're too valuable to be risked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackmanSlim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Well people in the medical field entered a contract, knowing the will have to work if such events like this occur. It has also been confirmed that anyone can get the virus, not just the elderly, or people with respiratory diseases. Children have died due to this virus. It is not a question of being lazy Daz, this is not just a pandemic, it's got to the point where this is a disaster. We should not be worrying what happens in the future right now, as this is not viable. What is viable is to avoid many more fatalities in the future, A lockdown will most definitely help. It is the ONLY solution. I do feel for you Daz, I really do. But right now, I personally do not see any other way. Slim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Earlier in the week a listened to a podcast by a guy called Mike Yeadon. If you have time to kill you might find it interesting to listen to. Before you dismiss it as bollocks just listen to the start of the podcast and learn who this guy is and what makes him qualified to have an opinion. The guy has spent his entire working life studying and developing medicines to aid respiratory illness and is arguably one of the foremost experts in his field. Today i saw an article in the daily mail that outlines the paper he has published online and the content of the podcast. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8899053/DR-MIKE-YEADON-Three-facts-No-10s-experts-got-wrong.html Edited October 31, 2020 by daz2905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, HackmanSlim said: Well people in the medical field entered a contract, knowing the will have to work if such events like this occur. It has also been confirmed that anyone can get the virus, not just the elderly, or people with respiratory diseases. Children have died due to this virus. It is not a question of being lazy Daz, this is not just a pandemic, it's got to the point where this is a disaster. We should not be worrying what happens in the future right now, as this is not viable. What is viable is to avoid many more fatalities in the future, A lockdown will most definitely help. It is the ONLY solution. I do feel for you Daz, I really do. But right now, I personally do not see any other way. Slim How many children have died? I don't disagree with a lockdown, but there is no need for one as severe as before and if you can work then you should work. The media is full of absolute bollocks and are scaring the shit out of people for no reason. We are being ruled by bunch of incompetent public school boys with absolutely no idea how to run a country. Life goes on and so does this country. It's a fact that over anxious parents are raising over anxious kids who in turn replicate the pattern. I think they call it having mental health problems aka being a snowflake. The future generations are going to be even worse that this one. Now that really is a scary thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackmanSlim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If there are future generations. Life will not go on. I can guarantee you if someone else was running the country, I am sure they would impose a lockdown too. They can say they will not. But in the mist of chaos and many deaths, oh they will. As for the number of children who have died. I not sure tbh, it is not something I would look up m8. It is a guarantee enough we are not dealing with the flu or anything like that. When it comes to human lives, I will never take risks, especially when you are the top brass. I do not base my information from the media either. I have family who work in the medical field, and they are sick to death with tons of people turning up with COVID-19, It must stop, and it must stop right now Slim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just out of interest Slim and not being critical here. Are you still agoraphobic or housebound? Sorry but i can't remember exactly what you had other than you didn't like going outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackmanSlim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I have agoraphobia Slim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, HackmanSlim said: I have agoraphobia Slim In all honesty i think we can just agree to disagree on this one. Your life circumstances will always make you come down on one side of this argument and mine will always be on the opposite side. Just to clarify though. I don't disagree with some lockdown measures in fact i posted in the other thread that we should have gone into some kind of lockdown at the same time as Scotland and Wales. It made sense in respect of timing and the fact that we don't have a physical border there. I don't agree that people need to stop going to work unless your job is in hospitality or leisure and subject to lockdown restrictions. If you choose to do so, then your employer should have every right to terminate your employment unless there is a medical reason that excuses your ability to work. In which case you should only receive SSP as the law states , without exception. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackmanSlim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Nothing I say is the law buddy, just how I feel about it. Also, we don't even know what is what yet. Let's see what happens Slim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktv303 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I'm still off from the first lockdown ffs. Start back date is rumored to be feb or march. Luckily the company is financially secure and the building being demolished for renovation has helped Going fuckin stir crazy tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundzero Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Covid-19 has every country in the world in unknown territory in dealing with this virus. Many different permutations have been tried to manage the virus and none ( other than those countries who either lie, censor all information or say nothing ) have come up with anything to effectively combat it 100%. Left unchecked the "it wont happen to me" crowd will rung around in groups and large gatherings, become super spreaders and infect tens of thousands, kill who knows how many, put the NHS under breaking strain and kill thousands more as collateral damage because patients with cancer, heart disease and many other life threatening diseases cant get treatment. My grandson is an Audi mechanic and has been furloughed for 7 months, he has mental health issues which are becoming more and more to the fore with his isolation which we have to manage but what alternatives have we other than to manage this best possible and follow the scientific advice to stop the spread of the disease until a vaccine is found and those that are still left can get back to life as normal. Sadly we are all affected in some way or other by this virus so we have to put personal selfishness to one side and behave with consideraion and respect for the health and survival of ourselves and of others. Government is not perfect, but how many of us are, we make mistakes and hopefully learn from them, especially when lives are at risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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