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Adam Johnson Sacked After Sex Charge Admission

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Haha this is the same team who were all for re-signing Ched evans (Who I think has been dealt a bad hand by the way).....Im not so sure Sunderland can claim the moral high ground on this...the cynic in me is thinking "right he's off to jail so let's get that £50k per week off the wage bill"........Poor old sunderland. As with Ched Evans though this does not seem cut and dried either....he met this lass in a nightclub which was for over 18's......I wonder what the outcome would be if Johnson get's time (which he prob will) and while inside gets some expensive lawyers to set about suing the nightclub and their employees from door staff right through to the bar tenders who served this under age girl drinks. If they all say they were "fooled" by the girl dressing up/fake id ect ect then the girl should be charged or the player should have his charges dropped.

 

Just another way of looking at these things. At the end of the day what the fook was she doing in that club at that time and at that age....?

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To be fair they have now published transcripts from whatsapp and she told him she was 15 before anything sexual happened. That's why he admits to grooming her and touching her up. He can't really deny it because the messages support those charges.

 

He messaged her on WhatsApp in late December 2014 and asked if she believed it was him.

Girl: Still not 100 per cent sure ha ha

Johnson: You sound a bit unsure lol x

Girl: I don’t know it’s just surreal ha ha

Johnson: Why?

Girl: Like you are my favourite footballer. You could update your Twitter saying Happy New Year and then I’d believe it’s you.

(He then sends the requested Tweet)

Girl: Ok I believe you.

Johnson: Lol

(He agrees to sign her club shirt and they chat about plans for New Year’s Eve)

Johnson: Where are you going out at?

Girl: …I’m not old enough to go out

Johnson: Yeah but you look old enough

Girl: No believe me when I say I’m 15

Johnson: Ages then lol

(Later they chat about the girl being shy and her ability to handle alcohol)

Girl: It seems like I’m the only one who can handle vodka

Johnson: Bet you are not shy with vodka

Girl: No not at all

(Later Johnson talks about their meeting)

Johnson: Thought I would get a proper thank you kiss for the shirt

Girl: Didn’t ask

Johnson: Well I can come back and get one

Girl: Why didn’t you ask us for the thank you kiss?

Johnson: I just didn’t think you would have wanted to

Girl: Wouldn’t have bothered me

Johnson: You are meant to want to kiss someone

Girl: Well I do want to absolutely

Johnson: Well we need to make it happen then

Girl: And we will then

(Later they continue)

Johnson: Am I only getting a kiss?

Girl: It depends on what else you are after

Johnson: Dunno depends on what you are up for. A little bit more than kissing.

(After their encounter)

Johnson: Think we had better go in the back next time

Girl: Yeah yeah

Johnson: That wasn’t convincing

Girl: Sorry my hands are freezing

Johnson: Was worth it though

Girl: Do you think?

Johnson: Do you not?

Girl: Yeah was checking that you did

Johnson: Yeah was class. Just wanted to get your jeans off.

 

 

He also did internet searches on " legal age of consent". Unlike Ched Evans who i too believe got shafted on the charges, this guy deserves everything he gets.

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To be fair they have now published transcripts from whatsapp and she told him she was 15 before anything sexual happened. That's why he admits to grooming her and touching her up. He can't really deny it because the messages support those charges.

 

 

He also did internet searches on " legal age of consent". Unlike Ched Evans who i too believe got shafted on the charges, this guy deserves everything he gets.

 

Yep fair play. I had not dug much deeper than the fact that they met at a nightclub....But with that whatsapp - He's bang to rights. I would imagine he will cop some time for that. I agree about Evans....wonder how much Sunderland's insurance is these days...these 2 players have "cost" them millions.

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6 years?

Absolutely insane sentencing when you take into account he was only convicted of grooming by sending her messages on whatsapp, kissing and touching her.

If it was my daughter i don't think i'd be happy and think it should have been longer but people get shorter sentences for way worse offending than this, rapists get shorter sentences and even Rolf Harris got less and that was for decades of offending.

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Deserves all 6 of them imho....not that his sentence is long but more the others like Rolfs were short.

 

Edit*** after reading it seems he also had animal porn too, sick fooker.

 

Also i've been banned from his facebook appeal site, you know the one where all the other sick fookers ini the world are defending him etc.

I replied to a thread his sister posted about helping get him home to his little girl........All i said was when his little girl gets to 15 she can go date a perv like him seen as all his family and friends think its ok and the 15 year olds fault....hypocrits the fooking lot of them, sick ones at that.

I'm not saying the girl is blameless but all the shit they post on there is vile and hate filled towards a 15 year old, makes my blood boil tbh and i'd love to meet half these sick keyboard warrior fooks just to knock them out tbh.

 

Rant over

 

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I hate myself for reading and jumping to my earlier conclusions FFS !!. Now having followed the case and heard the details then I would say six was pretty "lucky". Having known a few go down for a stretch in my life (not for this shit i might add) I have fair knowledge of sentencing guidelines. The starting point is 5 for this - Then you add on and subtract for all mitigating circumstances. As far as I can see he never plead guilty to the most serious charges, showed no remorse, hasn't tried to address his problems since arrest, has subjected his victim to a full year of "hell"...ect ect...No subtraction i can see anyway. Im surprised he didn't get 7 or 8 considering all that.

He deffo needs treatment and I hope his sentence comes with conditions where he undergoes treatment at his cost...As for the pics on the pc and his browsing history....Even more proof this is a sick man who needs to be behind bars and given treatment BEFORE he is released. Just goes to show as well - bottom 14% intellectually....I mean i know in the grand scheme of things it means nothing...but £80k per week for a numb skull sicko....With plenty of people thinking he is still a hero.

I do feel sorry for his family...but his sister needs to get a grip too....Yes love yer brother ect...but do it with quiet dignity and humility IMHO. His parents must be thinking "WTF".....

 

**Quick edit to add - The girl wasn't totally blameless...but because of her age then in our society she actually IS blameless and is the victim here....The victim of someone who couldn't or wouldn't say NO im sorry your underage....Nope this sicko actually groomed her over a period time.

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Less proof he knew she was under age?

 

How come there have been a few cases recently of female teachers getting away with grooming and sex with underage boy pupils? Surely from a breach of trust aspect that is even worse?

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Someone i know through a friend was a teacher and was convicted of grooming and sexual activity with two 15 year old female pupils. He got 4 and half years for it. Deserved it as well, he denied everything but both these girls said pretty much the same thing about how it happened and neither knew each other. Surely that's worse than a footballer who sends social media messages and get convicted of touching the girl once. I just thought 6 years seemed totally out of line with other sentencing.

Personally i'd like to see longer sentences for all crimes against a person but it doesn't seem right to single people out and sentence them based on media involvement. My guess is that he'll refused the appeal but the sentence will be cut to 3 or 4 years. I googled sentencing guidelines and the sentence for the offences went over those guidelines but the judge said he gave him longer for lack of remorse and the effect on the victim. If the media had not reported the trial in such detail knowing that this girls identity was already in the public domain then maybe she wouldn't have suffered the kind of crap that she's had to put up with. I feel bad for her and her family, at 15 years old you are entitled to make mistakes and the level abuse against her has been totally out of order. She was the victim.

Shocking thing is that in a lot of European countries this would have been totally legal because the age of consent is lower than the UK.

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