Lazzasurf Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've done the profit accumulator but found scratching about for £5 and £10 free bets tedious. so i went into hiding, like obi-wan between Episodes III and IV. I think i've mastered the basics and have done lots of simulation runs and a few live money runs, i've not lost yet and im £80 up in the 2 days of the cheltenham festival. If you have used lay betting/free bet system off online bookies, for me this was the natural progression from that, this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi5N033s_bQ is the start point watch it 2,3,4,5+ times till you get it and i'll post the next useful link tomorrow if you give a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fon Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Wow! Looks very good. Is there any software other than the market to help? Fon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazzasurf Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Ive tried the free version of betangel and fairbot both are pay sites after the free trial which pains me to subscribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Plenty of software about, the cheapest that is any good is probably Gruss which has a free month trial as well. If you are serious about doing this properly good software is essential . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Theres plenty of ways to make money on betfair once you have a bankroll. PA is ok to supplement your cash while laying/trading, its free money at the end of the day Heres a link for football hedging if you want to try. I havent tried it yet but a few lads elsewhere have been for a weeks and seem to be doing ok. The guy charges 2.5k for this, doubtful many have paid that but dont spread the link about, someone gave me it and spreading it about doesnt seem right https://mega.nz/#F!PxcnUJ6Y!AWLymlpO_uxwuQ5kE7To5A Another really simple system for the horses is 7 runners or less, lay the 2nd favourite in the Place market. Easy Peasy Races must have 7 or fewer runners Lay the SP second favourite to place (finish top 2) 1pt stake If the horse doesn't place, you win (+1 pt) If the horse places, you lose - then increase your stake for next horse to 1pt PLUS loss So if your stakes are 1pt = £10 and your lay was 1.6 and it placed you'd lose £6 and on the next race your stake would be £16. If it places you add that £16 + what you lost on the last race and so on 9 days in on £10 stakes it stands at £429 so really +43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Another really simple system for the horses is 7 runners or less, lay the 2nd favourite in the Place market. Easy Peasy Races must have 7 or fewer runners Lay the SP second favourite to place (finish top 2) 1pt stake If the horse doesn't place, you win (+1 pt) If the horse places, you lose - then increase your stake for next horse to 1pt PLUS loss So if your stakes are 1pt = £10 and your lay was 1.6 and it placed you'd lose £6 and on the next race your stake would be £16. If it places you add that £16 + what you lost on the last race and so on 9 days in on £10 stakes it stands at £429 so really +43. Problem with something like this is it's basically a martingale system and when you eventually hit the inevitable run of losers you end up having to risk huge amounts to win a tenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Possible but the most that its hit so far is 3 winners. Over at waccoe they've hidden a sub-forum for the degenerates and theres a fair few in there and all kinds of shit happens. The guy who pulled this out is in to trading and laying the nags, he puts his laying picks up etc and he says the biggest run in the last year is 5. I've no reason to doubt him, his lays speak for themselves and tbh the liability is little anyway as most are evens or less. Heres today cards with 7 or less to keep an eye on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Possible but the most that its hit so far is 3 winners. Over at waccoe they've hidden a sub-forum for the degenerates and theres a fair few in there and all kinds of shit happens. The guy who pulled this out is in to trading and laying the nags, he puts his laying picks up etc and he says the biggest run in the last year is 5. Perfectly possible to go for a long long time without hitting that run but it will happen, the longest run of winning favourites is 28 in a row so you can imagine the odds of a run of second favourites just placing at some point are pretty good. The liability may be low but at a run of even 10 winners you're well into the thousands to stake just to win your tenner, try getting 6000 matched at the odds you want on a shitty Tuesday at ffos las and that tenner isn't looking so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh4ckles Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I agree that any loss chasing system does not work long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I agree but we are talking horses, not games of chance. +8 with 3 to go today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Most of the bigger software providers do a free betdaq version and volume is picking up on there to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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