Minty Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Goes to show, it is a big scam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveywavey Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 agree with you mate especially after they changed the numbers from 1 to 49 to 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktv303 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That's bloody shocking. sent from my phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonerUK Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That's disgusting tbh. When they bumped it from £1 to £2 I stopped playing it regularly to hardly ever. Now with the extra set of numbers they can go and fuck!! It's as if they don't want people to play, suits me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssammm Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Bloody joke m8, I bet the old ringpiece was twitching too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchb Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That's ridiculous. Also , I don't understand why the prizefund for 5+ bonus is less than 5 numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizh Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Guy at work got 5 last night. Hasn't stopped whinging all day. Rightly so too IMO. If it was me I'd be just as pissed off, but a lot of us have been having fun on a day-long wind-up. Should be a minimum return £25, £50, £200 for the first 3 tiers of winning. Freaky sequence of numbers but it could happen any time. Just not worth the effort, now knowing the outcome. How many will now change their numbers knowing 4000 others are also going to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffs99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That's ridiculous. Also , I don't understand why the prizefund for 5+ bonus is less than 5 numbers. Yeah whole things a joke, absolutely no point in playing. Least when it started 5+bonus was a life changing sort of sum, but now its chump change. Wrong in so many ways tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchb Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 That's ridiculous. Also , I don't understand why the prizefund for 5+ bonus is less than 5 numbers. Yeah whole things a joke, absolutely no point in playing. Least when it started 5+bonus was a life changing sort of sum, but now its chump change. Wrong in so many ways tbh. Yeah , I thought it was still like £100,000 + for 5 numbers plus the bonus but the total prize funds nearer half that now yet the price of a tickets doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I stopped doing the National Lottery when they put it up to £2.00 I just do the health lottery now and irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldringers Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It works on percentages of the pot but the lowest prize has to remain at £25 so if there's a shit load of 3 ball winners there's basically less to go round. It's all down to common numbers and multiple numbers and that week 7 - 14 - 21 came out which doesn't help. They reckon that if 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 came out you'd get a virtually nothing or probably a cup of warm piss cause there's that many who do them , kids , grand kids ages D.O.B etc..... My owd fella use to say (God bless him) "Go for the high numbers 40's as the weigh more with the paint they use for the numbers so they drop to the bottom more" , I thought what a crock er shit statement that is till nearly every other week there would be 3 to 4 40's coming out and he would be drawing. I'd call round and he'd sit there with a smug smile waving his ticket saying, "Tow'd ya !" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffs99 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It works on percentages of the pot but the lowest prize has to remain at £25 so if there's a shit load of 3 ball winners there's basically less to go round. It's all down to common numbers and multiple numbers and that week 7 - 14 - 21 came out which doesn't help. They reckon that if 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 came out you'd get a virtually nothing or probably a cup of warm piss cause there's that many who do them , kids , grand kids ages D.O.B etc..... I get all that but the total prize fund for both 5 was only £60K and 5+bonus was only £61K.....bit patheitc considering when the lottory started you'd get a few £100K etc for 5+bonus....personally i think a £61K total prize fund for 5+bonus is taking the piss, even if only 1 person won they would only get £61K....for 5+ a bonus?? come on ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldringers Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 It's what happens when hot popular numbers all come out in one go. N matter how you look at it the a prize pool and if shitloads win it there's less for everyone. The way they split it is wrong not the low prize money. It's a piss take , when they added the extra 10 balls (quote) ;- Under the changes (extra 10 balls), the chance of matching all six balls will decrease from one in 14 million to one in 45 million. The chances of winning a cash prize from picking three, four or five numbers also diminish dramatically. For example, the prize for getting three numbers will remain at £25 but the chances of selecting them changes from one in 57 to one in 97. Camelot insists the chances of winning any prize increase from one in 54 to one in 9.3. This is because people who get two numbers will win a lucky dip ticket for a future draw, creating an extra 1.8 million winners a week. ............................. So basically the increased the amount of winners by adding the shit arse "Free draw entry" for 2 numbers. I put £4 on 1 x Weds 1 x Sat lucky dips then I'm not stuck to numbers incase I forget or miss the draw. And why do i do it ? because you gotta be in it to win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I play Euromillions and only do the lotto if i get a small win on Euro draw. I do ok on euromillions considering i only buy one ticket for each draw. I think the biggest problem with the new lotto is that people still play the same numbers that they've used for years despite there now being an extra 10 to choose from. Means that if any of the new 10 get drawn the chances of a rollover increase. I only ever play the lucky dip because if i ever forgot to put my numbers on and they came up i'd be pissed off for the rest of my life. Plus i play online so don't even need to check the numbers. The odds are so great against winning that i just consider the money lost but 4 pound a week is worth it just to dream of your life changing at any moment. Seeing that result though, from now on i'm just buying an extra euromillions and not bothering with the lotto at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fon Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The lottery is a tax on people who cant do math! Fon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktv303 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 S! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffs99 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The way they split it is wrong not the low prize money. It's a piss take , when they added the extra 10 balls (quote) ;- Totally disagree, when you have a prize fund of £61K for 5 numbers there is something wrong with the system mate, 5 number prize fund should be large enough so that even if there are loads of winners they get more than £15 each....the only reason they got £15 each was because the total prize fund for 5 numbers was so low. You can't have 5 numbers prize fund at 61K and then 5+bonus @ 60K....i mean seriously?? if you were the only person to get 5 numbers you'd win 60K but get the bonus and you get £1000 less, and thats assuming your the only winner......fooking con, no matter how you look at it its a con if the total prize fund for 5 is higher than the total prize fund for 5+bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldringers Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 It's basically the the lower £25 winners that fooked it up. There was that many it screwed the higher prize cash pots up because they have to payout a set prize of £25 for 3 regardless of how many winners. The other prizes are made up of a percentage of the kitty, that's what's wrong and the £25 is too high. Lets be honest, we pay our £2 in the hope we win a decent sum even if it's enough for new tv or a small holiday. £25 gets you jack shit so scrap it and make it 4 and up or lower the 3 back down to a tenner with no roll over stop, keep rolling it till it bursts like they do in the good ole US of A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Not so lucky them numbers now! just think most of them was probably played week in week out birth dates, ages, anniversary in the belief that one day they'd drop in. Then bingo you sit and you shake your heart rate goes up your flush in the face your spending money in your head on a nice new car and other things you've always wanted then BAM! A full on volley to the man bag or slamming your tits in the car door if your female for just £15 you fooking kidding me 15 or more years playing the same numbers FFS And the moral of m story is don't play the Lotto. If you walked in to the bookies and the turf accountant said I've horse running today, he's blind as one good leg and the jockey's pissed all the time. But ill give you odds of 14 million to one, yes i know some would say ill give it a shot stranger things have happened, but come on folks it's very very slim. Your 28 times more likely to be murdered than hitting the jackpot. Sorry for going off track and rambling but do the pools or spot the ball, showing my age now lol but at least you stood a betting chance, well with the pools anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuffs99 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 If you walked in to the bookies and the turf accountant said I've horse running today, he's blind as one good leg and the jockey's pissed all the time. But ill give you odds of 14 million to one, yes i know some would say ill give it a shot stranger things have happened, but come on folks it's very very slim. Your 28 times more likely to be murdered than hitting the jackpot. Sorry for going off track and rambling but do the pools or spot the ball, showing my age now lol but at least you stood a betting chance, well with the pools anyways. For ref its now odds of 45 million to 1 to match all 6 numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 What's that horse called again? I'll have a tenner way or twenty if it's called Seabiscuit. The lotto's just about a dream, same as the pools used to be. They should never have messed with it. £25 is not going to change anyone life and 5 numbers should at least get you a cheap holiday in the sun. They need to raid a little of the 50% good cause money when it goes wrong and make sure people get something worth winning. Then pay that money back with the prizes that go unclaimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Just got a email: In December 2014, we changed the prize payout percentage to the UK Millionaire Maker part of the EuroMillions game from 50% to 42%. This slight alteration of the proportion of ticket sales used to pay prizes in just the UK Millionaire Maker part of the game meant that we raised an additional £28 million for National Lottery Good Cause projects. This was done while also maintaining the prizes available to be won by players at their current levels. From 1 April 2016, this will revert back to 50% to ensure that we can keep offering exciting prizes and events for UK EuroMillions players. You can find out more about the changes to UK Millionaire Maker here. Sincerely, The National Lottery Team www.national-lottery.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldringers Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I totally agree, when all said and done it's a , 1st;- prize draw 2nd;- Charity. If they just want the money call it a charity and offer no draw. Me ? , I would scrap the free draw and 3 balls and start at first prize on offer 4 balls then with the millions of £'s saved split this by adding more and lesser prizes say a £1000 on the extra draw numbers so at the end of the day you feel you can buy or do something with the cash. £25 gets you jack shit not even a night out these days and who the fookin hell wants a free draw ticket for 2 balls?. Or make a clean % break down so some weeks 3 balls pay £50 some weeks they pay 50p all dependsing on how many winners and how much is in the kitty. By setting the 3 balls at £25 say if 7 13 21 come out then there will be a shitload of winners meaning less to go around for the other percentage pot breakdown The problem is, they think by making more winners of a shit cash prize it will entice more but that draw of £15 proves it's a massive mistake and lots will no doubt turn there back on it. I bet some snotty nose piss arse colleague kid with a degree in maths came up with the prize money equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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