If the covid vaccine was available tomorrow??

[Fon]

Would you take it?

 

Fon

[jakdos]

Yup !!

Was having  discussion about this with the sister in law the other day. She woudn't - I would. Her argumment was that it was not tested widely and could lead to complicaitons in the future.  Personally, I don't see an end to this without a vaccine, and whilst we might be alive, we are not living. I'd rater live the next few years and die prematurely from complications, than live like this for years to come.

It's shit, I see it in my sons face, he's miserable, and that's what's dragging me down. School is crap, any decent lessons cancelled, same classroom all day, and he's lost his football 6 days a week.

[Groundzero]

People been watching too many horror and science fiction films where the world population is turned into zombies from taking a vaccine which proves to have devastiting effects after being used and there is too much false information being spread by anti-vac zealot groups with no proof of their claims to back it up.
There are multiple testing regimes in place in most of the developed counties in the world working on this vaccine providing as many safeguards as they can against any possible side effects. While i agree that long term effects of the vaccine are obviously unknown any genetic changes after administering the vaccine are covered by the safeguards so should be reasonably relied on, whereas the effects on the population of the world of not having a vaccine are well known. The only unknown at the moment would appear to be how long protection lasts but this is also the case for the Flu vaccine as the Flu virus mutates we have annual vaccination programs to combat it and keeo us safe and save countless lives, and maybe the same will apply to the Covid-18 vaccine.

The answer to the original question - yes I would have it, I am in the vulnerable age group with a high chance of dying from it if I become infected so no contest as far as I am concerned but even if I wasn't I would still elect to be vaccinated.

 

Edited November 15, 2020 by Groundzero

[daz2905]

Not a chance. I'll be hanging back even if i was at the front of the queue. Although covid is a bit of a lottery, i don't think i'm high risk and would rather wait and see how mass vaccination works out. By that i mean i'm happy to take my chances and wait as long as year before i take it. When i do, i imagine it will be foreign travel conditions that force me to take it.

My dad and in laws though, well i hope they take it. They all have health problems and i hope that taking this will help them get back to normality and enjoy the time they have left. In their case the benefits will outweigh the risk.

I'm not an anti vaxer or conspiracy theorist. I believe covid exists, i believe that it is potentially fatal to around 0.3% of the population many who already have terminal and life shortening conditions. I also believe that there has been a huge over reaction to this whole thing based on misinformation. Action was needed but it was not necessary to shut down so much of our economy and to deny people treatment for other non covid conditions. I think it was 2019 when 35000 people died because of flu, we never batted an eyelid to that one.

If the fat toff hadn't caught it you can bet your life we wouldn't have been shut now. He flaps at every turn and was the wrong man to lead this country.

[ktv303]

It's all down to money now. Every country is making their own version so they can sell it. China has had a vaccine for ages, wth them and most of south America has been taking it with no issues. The pfizer announcement was purely money orientated to sell shares. 

No one knows the long term effects of the vaccine, if any but we don't know about long term effects of any drug made in the last 10 or 20 years.

It took 200 years to eliminate polio after a cure was found and that was without anti vaxers and covidiots all over the place refusing to take it because of YouTube "experts" so I think it's here to stay really. 

I've not actually decided if id get the vaccine yet tho but it's a long long way off from being doled or to joe public so there's no rush

[Groundzero]

Yes and with a world population of 7.8 billion and every countries governments wanting to buy it it is turning out to be a bumper christmas for the pharmaceutical companies and their shareholders, just wish I had bought into them earlier in the year but I wouldnt have known who was going to deliver on the vaccine back then but I would bet a few traders had a bit of an inside indication.

[goldringers]

Offer free with broadband or free Sky Sports for 6 month and lets see how many change their minds. Those who choose not to ?, lets hope you don't die of it. I lost a m8 2 days back, 49 years old. 

 

 

[daz2905]

I don't think anyone in their right mind would refuse a fully working and fully trialled vaccine. 

The fact is it takes years to bring drugs and vaccines to market but this has been rushed through for obvious reasons and they propose over time to vaccinate most of the worlds population. There's several vaccines out there and i'd like to wait a while to see how the real trial which will be millions of vaccinations goes and then see which version is on offer to me.

I'm an adult, i'm aware of the risks this virus presents and i'll take it when i feel confident in what i take. 

It's not too much of an issue anyway, i wouldn't expect to even be offered it until next summer by which time i would hope to feel more positive about it.

[goldringers]

Poeple need to educate themselves. This isn't a drug that kills the virus thus the chance it can do other untold damage, this is reprogramming the body to detect the virus and and prep our "OWN" immune system for it's next attack making our "OWN" anti bodies. Basically were using our own defence mechcanism to fight the virus. Not all Covid vaccines do this but basically they act in a similar way.

 

Now if people wanna start off with the "I'm not taking it you dont know if....." sh"t then fine by me. I'll be little johnny first hand up at the back. Oh and those who refuse should sign an aggreement that the NHS refuse to treat you when you evenetually do get it.

Conspiracy theorist are all over this already. I'm waiting on the first pictures of peoples heads falling off and stomaches exploding after been given the jab. Of course some will get an elergic reaction and in the case of Covid there will be far more simply due to the numbers.

 

I had one guy say "I'm not I don't like needles" I said wait till they stick a friggin tube down your airwaves and needles galore in your arms you soft gobshite

[daz2905]

There is very credible evidence that shows that this virus was around in September 2019 and yet for some reason our governments refuse to even acknowledge or discuss it. We have been told so many things that have turned out not to be true. It's no wonder that conspiracy theorist are having a field day. It's strange how this virus that supposedly we can get from touching a bank note seems to have a habit of only infecting one member of a household while the others all test negative. I already know of lots of examples of this. There must be something more to that one. The problem as i see it is that we have all these experts who don't know very much telling us theories as though they are facts.

I've never said i won't take the vaccination, i'd just like to choose based upon facts and then decide which i will take and when i'll take it. I don't mind paying privately if i am not offered the vaccination i want on the NHS. I've had health insurance for years because i think the NHS trusts do a terrible job and i sure as shit didn't waste my time clapping them.

I'm not hanging about waiting for any so called cure or vaccination, i'm cracking on with life in the meantime while taking sensible precautions, at least in the best way i can with these restrictions. A vaccination is months away so i'll consider my options then, i'd just rather not be first in line for whatever the NHS have managed to lay their hands on.

You've already taken a good dose of government propaganda so good luck with your vaccination and hopefully you'll post back unless you get denied treatment for a whole number of diseases that the beloved NHS are doing very little to treat. Hopefully it won't be GP's given the responsibility of giving these vaccinations, they won't be able to that via a video call.

 

[goldringers]

53 minutes ago, daz2905 said:

 It's no wonder that conspiracy theorist are having a field day. It's strange how this virus that supposedly we can get from touching a bank note seems to have a habit of only infecting one member of a household while the others all test negative.

 

That might have something to do with the method we test with. I take all figures with a pinch of salt. I have a firend in the NHS frontline who tested postive negative postive in the sapce of 10 days. Read into that how you like.

The C.T. gang ?, its a growing business, full of bullshitters. from the moon landing to JFK to 9/11 to Covid. blacks white whites black. There's a guy on youtube who has become a sensation with millions of followers in a short space of time by denouncing everything in the style of Trump.

 

 

and lets not forget why , 

 

 

Their all making a fookin good living out of it,

 

If you want to know some sceintic truth watch this, made in 2010